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“We’ve Never Had to Duck”: Bill Haney and Coach Dorset Trade the Duck Charge Both Ways

If you came to this Mill City Boxing live looking for contract details, save yourself the nine minutes: there are none in it. No catchweight. No rehydration clause. No purse numbers. What there is — and it is plenty — is the duck argument itself, conducted at full volume by two men who clearly cannot stand each other: Bill Haney, and Coach Dorset, who trains Keyshawn Davis.

Bill’s position fit in one sentence, delivered early: “We’ve never had to duck.” The Haneys, he said, worked with Matchroom and Top Rank without a problem, and if the other camp had reasons they couldn’t fight, they should have said so instead of letting it be called what it looks like. Everything after that from Bill was defense of the family record — Devin’s accolades read out like a résumé: undisputed, multi-division, the youngest to do it.

Dorset’s case was the mirror image, and he built it in three parts. First, Tank Davis: why did that fight fall through? Bill’s answer was that Tank is not fighting this year, that Turki put the money up for Devin vs Tank, and that Tank demanded two Ferraris just to talk about it — and when Dorset pressed the claim that Bill once said the money was not enough, Bill shut it down flat: there was “no money on the table” to refuse. Dorset did not believe him and said so, promising to dig the old statement up live. Neither man produced it. Score that round: allegation versus denial, nothing settled.

Second — and this was Dorset’s sharpest point — DAZN. Dorset accused the Haney side of not delivering on their DAZN deal: the network wanted real fights, he said, not Jack Catterall or Liam Paro, and the Haneys told DAZN “we can get Shakur” — and then didn’t. If that is true, it reframes the whole saga: the Haney camp was not just negotiating with Shakur, it was selling him to its network and coming up empty. It is Dorset’s claim, not a document, and Bill never got a clean chance to answer it between the insults. But it is the one accusation in this video that deserves a follow-up, because it is checkable in a way trash talk is not.

Third, the résumé itself. Dorset called Devin’s accolades a list of fights nobody asked for and said the top names are the ones missing from it — “Brian Norman was the email champion” was his verdict on one of them. The panel also sparred over the 147/154 shuffle — the Haneys’ move up to 147 and Boots Ennis’s move up to 154, where Boots took a vacant title — with each side framing the sequence to make the other camp look like the one doing the avoiding.

Strip the car insults and the shower jokes out of this video and what remains is the honest state of the duck debate: two camps, each certain the other is the problem, arguing from memory with no paperwork on the table. Shakur, meanwhile, says he has asked out of his deal to promote himself. Fine. When everybody is done accusing everybody, the fights are the only receipts left — and at 135 and 147, they are still unwritten.

Video credit: Mill City Boxing.

Read next: “You’re Sparring an Amateur”: Bill Haney Says Shakur’s Big Leak Was a Nobody — While Debo Spars a 17-0 Pro

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